Question by Walter Ford II : No cl? techniques of infertility have on psychotic? logos site ? or are the m? physicians psychotic? trained as logos? Could not? to imagine having to listen to women throughout the d? a, complaint? NDOS of how reality can not accept their infertility and not having that’s why hijos.Supongo tanto.Creo charge which you have to make an obligatory for women / couples psychology? to help before attempting any type of purchase? ova, or what not. Fri Response by Allan
? Qu? do you think? Answer below!
No cl? Techniques of infertility have on psychotic? Logos site?
February 9, 2012 By 12 Comments
Walter,
I know you’re in pain because of your adoption. I don’t pretend to understand what you’re going through because I have no point of reference. But your hatred of infertile people is just beyond ridiculous. I am, apparently, infertile, and I didn’t buy my son or snatch him from anyone. I don’t whine about my infertility to anyone, but it did cause a lot of pain in my life at one time.
Why must you be SO hateful? Is your pain more important than anyone else’s?
Yes, a lot of people who are infertile are ‘desperate’ to have a baby and will stop at nothing to obtain one. I think that’s sleazy and don’t support it one bit. But ranting the way you do is lost on so many people. They immediately discount you because of the way you state things…and many probably just assume you’re one of those “bitter adoptees.” You’re not helping your case here.
Is this how adopted sons work out their Oedipal complexes? You don’t have access to your biological mother so you fixate on your adoptive mother’s womb?
Why are you not out with your peers on a Friday night like most teens are? Why the isolation and obsession with childbearing issues?
Nope. I have heard that they do offer some counseling, such as “this might hurt”. And for what it’s worth, I agree with Aloha, Allanas, and gasp, even Rosie.
Perhaps YOU need a psychologist, as people are getting to the point that they can’t stand hearing you whine all day about your adoptive parents and all your ‘issues’. What people do with their bodies and fertility is none of your business.
It’s much easier for the experts to bury their heads in the sand than to admit the psychological problems inherent with desperation and neediness.
But come on Walter, it’s not all about infertility, not all are infertile. According to the CDC, 50% of American adults have genital herpes and with no “safe” time not to be contagious it makes reproducing all but impossible.
we should just get over our infertility and accept reality grow up this is just rude and insensitive you obviously have no idea about what these couples go through and what its like to see most women around you with children when you cant have them.
THIS IS A RANT AND ITS PERTHETIC
just coz ur life is fucked up and u had a bad experiance with adoption does not me that us infertily people are out there to steal babys this is just so hurtful and i cant imagin what problems you have in yourself to trying and critise and make us all feel bad go to your roomand feel sorry for urself there because we are not interested
Walter, shame on you for being cruel to a group of people who are going through a very painful experience.
You feel pain and anger because of your adoption experience. Very few people validate that pain and anger. You feel like nobody will allow you to be angry or grieve the loss of your mother, a huge loss. I’m not too far from reality here, am I?!
Society should allow you to grieve. You should also refrain from being cruel to couples who are having trouble having a child. You have no more right to hurt them than they have to invalidate your adoption experience.
Doctors do referrals for psychologists. Both nurses and doctors have some training, but psychology is a specialty, just like plastic surgery, cardiac care, etc.
Psychologists have been to med school, and although they don’t do surgeries, they’ve been trained in them too.
Quite frankly, any parent, no matter how they conceive, no matter their background, if they adopt, need ferility help, or just the old fashioned way, should go through a home study like adoptive parents to make sure they’re mentally, physically, financially, and emotionally ready for kids. If they did this, the need for adoption/foster care would be almost nil. Based on facts in foster care, there’s a lot more biological families who shouldn’t have their kids than there are adoptive families who ever abuse their kids.
Walter,
usually I agree with you. But infertility has lots of causes and most of them are treatable ..*without* egg buying and stranger sperm donation.
Most infertility will be resolved happily and the couple will have a child, without having to spend many thousands of dollars. Nor will they be creating an adopted person.
Also, these procedures are not done in “clinics” but in ob/gyn offices, and many many women have undergone infertility treatments, going back at least 60 years or more.
The one by me does (looked into for me and t’other half), and I think they have to provide some form of counselling by law in the UK anyway.
Oh, and Walter dear, I seriously hope you find out you’re infertile, just so’s you can feel like those you bitch about.
I can’t say for sure, since I have never been. I can tell you thought, that it is killing me trying to figure out if you are an infertile women with self-loathing issues or an impotent man who loves blaming women for everything, including why your little guy is never happy to see them. Decisions…decisions!
I’ve known many infertile women. Never heard them whine. Their grip on reality was fine. They recognized the problem and worked to fix it. Wish we could say the same for you